Curse

Mark Nevermiss · Jan 28, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Pre-searing the Charr were pretty much in control of all lands above the Great Wall. Therefore there was no need to target that area.
Now lets suppose the Charr were ignorant of the consequences of invoking such a horrible spell or detonating that hydrogen bomb, isnt it logical that the entire Charr force garrisoned north of the Wall would have been destroyed too, I mean when the sky rains fire and crystal meteors it does not normally discriminate between friend and foe.
Shouldn't the Charr in that case have been shocked by the terrible price they paid and caused significant internal unrest even prior to the defeat of the titans at the hands of King Adelbern and us?

super strokey · Jan 28, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Prehaps they knew that something would happen and pulled their forces back first.

Eldin · Jan 28, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Perhaps. Although we see little of it, in The Searing cinematic, not much seems to be going on North aside from those Charr conjuring The Searing.

Amazingly though, in terms of how many NPCs return in Post-Searing, it seems as if nobody was killed by The Searing. The land was desecrated and the cities were pulverized into rubble, but, honestly, you don't hear much about people being smashed by giant crystals or being burned alive (aside from Althea).

Syco Masato · Jan 28, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

I really think that they withdrew their forces first before the actual Searing, but what I recently realized was the actual scale of the Searing. It wasn't just Ascalon City that was ruined, it extended throughout the entire region, which is pretty dang big.

KalleDamos · Jan 28, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Not all of it was 'seared' acordin to some lore from somwehre, dust was tossed into the air, and helped to block out the sun to help dry up and kill things...

Mark Nevermiss · Jan 28, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Eldin

Perhaps. Although we see little of it, in The Searing cinematic, not much seems to be going on North aside from those Charr conjuring The Searing.

Amazingly though, in terms of how many NPCs return in Post-Searing, it seems as if nobody was killed by The Searing. The land was desecrated and the cities were pulverized into rubble, but, honestly, you don't hear much about people being smashed by giant crystals or being burned alive (aside from Althea).

True but if you look at the map post searing you will see the extent of destruction consumes most of the charr land north of the wall too.

Free Runner · Jan 29, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by Eldin

Perhaps. Although we see little of it, in The Searing cinematic, not much seems to be going on North aside from those Charr conjuring The Searing.

Amazingly though, in terms of how many NPCs return in Post-Searing, it seems as if nobody was killed by The Searing. The land was desecrated and the cities were pulverized into rubble, but, honestly, you don't hear much about people being smashed by giant crystals or being burned alive (aside from Althea).

Only Major NPCs. The destruction is so bad many believe nobody actually survived (Entering the village in Gates of Kryta gets a person saying he heard nobody was alive in Ascalon). There are quests that show the extent of it (The one where the 2 ghosts are looking for their son after being killed in The Searing). Also alot of the NPCs roaming the countrysides dissapear.

I doubt the Charr cared. "Victory At Any Cost". They found a way to survive it and simply considered it a great victory.

Avatara · Jan 29, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

ye their shamans didn't care that the destroyers would destroy their own forces either.

Mournblade · Jan 29, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

The forces outside the northern wall were more or less low level grunts - easily expendable.

Fangclaw · Jan 29, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

[QUOTE=Mark Nevermiss]Pre-searing the Charr were pretty much in control of all lands above the Great Wall. Therefore there was no need to target that area.[QUOTE]

And what about Surmia, Drascir and Nolani? Those cities were built outside the Northern Wall...

That explains why The Searing destroyed Ascalon on both sides of the wall.
The Charr knew where to strike and how devastating The Searing would be; but that doesnt mean they would retreat their forces first.

Maybe the Charr we saw in the Northlands were part of an expeditionary force that was ment to ''Search and Destroy'' near the Wall.

Valeria · Jan 31, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

well the searing area is really oversized. It nuked the whole country! I don't think being in the center of the area gives you a high chance of survival.

I don't think they retreated all the way back where the searing could't reach them. The area is just too big.

I still wonder why the great wall was built south of Surmia? maybe from the Guild Wars?

Fangclaw · Feb 01, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by Valeria

I still wonder why the great wall was built south of Surmia? maybe from the Guild Wars?

Its the other way around... All cities north of the Wall were built in a time of relative peace, a hundred years or so after the Wall itself was built. Way before the Guild Wars. Just click on the Ruins of Surmia mission location on the map and it'll give you a description as for the reason why it was built so far north...

Numa Pompilius · Feb 01, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Somehow I don't think Charr bosses care all that much about the lives of their underlings.

On the other hand, the Charr boss who kicked off the Searing did so from a position near Piken Square, ie he nuked himself. That, to me, suggests that he didn't realize how big a boom he was calling down. And, frankly, why would the titans have bothered to tell him?

Eldin · Feb 02, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by Mournblade

The forces outside the northern wall were more or less low level grunts - easily expendable.

Though in the eyes of the level 5 Ascalon Soldiers - incredibly powerful! :O

I wish I saw the look on their faces when they saw the REAL extent of the Charr army, in GW:EN.

angmar_nite · Feb 03, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32

But then you have the vanguard. Who are like all lv20 and fighting the real Charr army.

Biostem · Feb 03, 2008, 04:21 AM // 04:21

I honestly don't think the meteors from the searing did the most damaging; it was the poisoning of the landscape and the unpreparedness of the Ascalonians that caused the most deaths.

I mean, think about it - there weren't that many crystal meteors, but pretty much all the farmland, homesteads, and food stores were rendered useless. Two years of no food, no clean water, and no safe place to live will destroy any population...

Eldin · Feb 04, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I agree, Biostem. Once again - read my first post. We didn't really see any direct death caused from the crystals.

Anyone we do know is dead, or at least missing, was from the after effects.

~nymph~ · Feb 04, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

well if you watch the cinematic, people are smashed by the giant crystals

Shadowmere · Feb 04, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

well despite it raining giant crystals it is still called the searing for a reason. I'm guessing that those crystals were in fact very very hot and after causing lots of damage from impact set everything in the area on fire as well. This must've burned out most of the kingdon, thus the famous yet never actually seen fire of the searing, it happened after our cienematic.

As for the charr dropping the searing on themselves, despite what they'd have you believe, they really just aren't the smartest bunch of kitty cats (at least the shaman ruled ones). Really though I get the feeling they didn't know just how powerful the magic they were invoking was.

One thing I still don't get about the searing though is how did all the water in ascalon get turned into tar? that transition just dosen't make any sense to me.

Fangclaw · Feb 04, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by Shadowmere

One thing I still don't get about the searing though is how did all the water in ascalon get turned into tar? that transition just dosen't make any sense to me.

Thats because it didnt get transmutated, it all evaporated from extreme heat, and im guessing Tar spew forth from the ground to take the water's place due to lessen of pressure or something.

Unless the Elric Brothers happened to pass by (wonder who'll get that) ^_^